Waldorf and RIE: A Beautiful Pairing

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24 thoughts on “Waldorf and RIE: A Beautiful Pairing

  1. I run and infant program in my home in Sacramento, CA and have studied Waldorf education for over 30 years and RIE for 10 years now. I do not find them synonymous, but rather they work well together. Many Waldorf EC people in Europe take the Pikler training, and more and more Waldorf EC people in the US are finding the RIE trainings.
    RIE and Steiner philosophies are like two hands that are folded together. Each hand can do so many things and carries much wisdom, but each is very different from the other, but can fold so nicely together.

    • Very beautiful metaphor. Thank you for sharing Simone. What is the name of your program? I’m always interested in the Waldorf Early Childhood programs that are offered here in the US.

  2. Since becoming a grandparent and parenting blogger I have become familiar with RIE and “attachment parenting” in much greater depth than I was as a social worker/nurse specializing in parents and children.
    However, I was not aware of Waldorf Teacher Training until reading your informative post. I like your blog. I feel the same way you do about the importance of the relationship between parents and children.

    • Thank you. :) It is always nice to know there are other mothers (and grandmothers) who have similar thoughts when it comes to the relationship dynamics in a family. I am also very happy when someone is introduced to Waldorf and it’s beautiful philosophy.

  3. Hello Sydney,

    Thank you for raising this question. Perhaps you have not become familiar with LifeWays Child Care homes and centers. There are several throughout North America, and you are most welcome to peruse our website http://www.lifewaysnorthamerica.org to see where they are located. Our is a Steiner-based approach to care, and our training courses are very popular. We introduce all of our students to the work of Emmi Pikler as we see in her akindr ed spirit when it comes to a number of her ideals on caring for children. We introduce our students to a deep perspective of child development informed by the profound research of Rudolf Steiner, and encourage them to establish care settings that reflect the nature and appearance of a home. In this way we have taken much inspiration from the Awhina Center in New Zealand which is less institutional than some other locations. Blessings on your work and play, Cynthia Aldinger

  4. Great article and I wanted to let you know about LifeWays, a training for those working with the very young child in home and nursery settings. We are inspired by Waldorf education and the work of Rudolf Steiner and RIE!! Simone, whose comments are first on the blog, is one of our teachers in the California Coast LifeWays Training. Have a look at our national website http://www.lifewaysnorthamerica.org. We are very much like the two hands folded together, as Simone so beautifully describes. There is a LifeWays training in Vancouver!!
    Blessings on your mothering!

    • Thank you. LifeWays training in Vancouver is certainly closer than the RIE training in New Hampshire. I think that the Sound Circle Center actually started as a LifeWays training before expanding into Foundation Year and Teacher Training.

      • Hi Sydney,

        Just a little correction. Sound Circle was not first a LifeWays training. At one time we were considering having a LifeWays training as part of Sound Circle, but the timing was not right. They are their own independent Waldorf Teacher training.

        • Cynthia, Thank you for clearing this up. I did wonder, why is it that there is no Foundation year for LifeWays? Or is there? I wonder what it would be like if LifeWays and the EC Teacher Training program would come together.

      • Oh! I forgot to update. I’m actually in Portland now. I am a certified Waldorf EC teacher as I have taken the full training. I wish I could do the life ways training to add more to my education, but I am due to have another baby in April. :) I did see that training though and it peaked my interest.

    • Which 2 approaches? RIE and Waldorf? Me too. Perhaps some of the other lovely ladies can help fill in the gaps. I’m guessing one thing is the spiritual foundation of Anthroposophy.

      • HI Sydney,
        I have been reading your blog for awhile. I am also a Waldorf teacher who is now (mostly) a stay at home mom with my two little boys. I wrote a blog post about respectful redirection, which is one area where I think RIE and Waldorf appear to differ, but in reality they don’t really. I am sure there are others who have more to say about it, but I think the two schools of thought intertwine more than they differ.
        The link is here: http://merriconeag1.blogspot.com/2014/01/how-waldorf-teachers-utilize-redirection.html
        Actually I’m not sure how to post the link correctly, but you can find it by copying and pasting.
        Anyway, I enjoy reading your blog and seeing where you are at with your parenting journey. I live in Portland too, but the Maine one.
        Thank you!

        • Heidi,

          I agree with your post. I think there is a difference between disrespectful distraction which pulls a child from their play and what you have described. I am not sure how ‘RIE’ it is to do that, but in Waldorf where we believe in keeping children in their imaginations this feels much better to me than pulling them out of their play to explain why they need to do something differently. I’ve realized that I wrote a post about this concept but forgot to include the imaginative aspect. I am sure that you have heard of the ‘yes, and’ concept. Meeting a child where they are and gently leading them (through pictures) where you need them to be. (Here’s my post https://sydneysteiner.com/2013/05/13/just-say-yes-how-using-this-one-word-will-improve-your-parenting/) I’ll share your post in my blog’s FB page. I like it and will be following your blog now. :)

          • Thanks for your response and for sharing the post! I write the blog for our Waldorf , so it is more general information about Waldorf and parenting and less of my personal experience. I have been inspired by reading your blog, and others that deal more directly with real experiences. It’s such a gift as a mom to be able to connect with folks in distant places around parenting support!

  5. Have you heard about Montessori? Dr. Montessori originally worked with 3-6 yo children whose parents were day workers, and offered them a bunch of different toys and materials to see what they liked and could do. Everything that has been kept in the “curriculum” was tested and chosen by thousands of children.
    Programs now go from 6 wks (called a Nido) through high school. The Montessori approach also focuses on letting the child develop independence, and a famous quote from an early Montessori student was, “help me to do it myself.”
    In coordination with the developing independence, Montessori “guides” (teachers) help the child connect with materials, and then let them explore the materials in order to learn from them. Montessori specifically designed many of the materials to embody scientific concepts that the child discovers naturally through his play/work. A great Montessori website for birth to three is http://www.aidtolife.org.

    • I have heard of Montessori. I actually find that there are GREAT sensory activities for small children that are not talked about as much in the Waldorf Early Childhood Training. Many more useful tools as well. I find that the more we work within other teaching philosophies, the more rich we can make the early childhood experience. Do you think so?

  6. I would like to thank you all for so much useful information. Thank you for making this such a rich topic that I’m sure I will come back to; bringing in Montessori and LifeWays as well.

  7. I always liked the way the RIE and Waldorf focused on respect, fostering creativity, and recognizing the uniqueness of this time in a child’s life. Waldorf has always appealed to my love of nature. I think as a society we become more educated in our parenting decisions we question the norm and what we know. I am not sure if I ever was AP, but more so with my first than second, and I know I was more developmentally focused with my first than others. Parenthood is a journey and an evolution, as is becoming a teacher. As we grow, so too do our beliefs and philosophies.

  8. I think the two have a great deal of common ground, but one area where
    I get confused is the emphasis in RIE on talking so much to tiny babies and children…my initial understanding of Waldorf in the early years was that one should talk less, and teach through doing, for many reasons I am sure you are familiar with, including not being too awakening of the consciousness. What do you think of that?

    • I agree actually. I have really been working with this and trying to find a balance between good communication and a nice quiet atmosphere. I talked to my first a LOT and he IS very awake. The next one I hope to have a better balance.

  9. I an a WECAN. Member site and a RIE Associate doing Infant care in my home combining these methods in my own unique way…very fantastic! I live in Sacramento, CA.

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